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Hello and welcome to no Wrong Choices, the podcast that explores the career journeys of interesting and accomplished people to uncover insights that we can use within our own journeys.
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I'm Larry Samuels, soon to be joined by Tushar Saxena and Larry Shea.
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com.
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This episode features the voice actor, comedian and puppeteer, bill Lobley.
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Bill's known for his work in hits such as Arcane on Netflix, blockbuster video games, movies, commercials and just about anything else you can think of Tushar, why don't you set this one up for us Well?
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first of all, I mean, he's a Fordham guy.
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Obviously he's going to be an awesome, awesome interviewer, of course.
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So we can't go wrong there.
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You know what?
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And after researching him a bit, I mean, look, I went to Fordham but I never really thought of Fordham as a theater school.
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In some senses right.
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But Denzel Washington went to Fordham.
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So, yes, we have that, we have chops.
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People who went to Fordham went on to do big things in movies and television, movies and television.
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But you know, bill is probably like the, the perfect personification of, I won't say a grinder, but a guy who pretty much made his mind up at a young age that this is what he wants to do.
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And he's been pretty successful at it.
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You know, he's obviously gone through the ups and downs of anyone's career, as they're supposed to, but for the most part he's done a lot, he's done a great deal.
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And look, I gotta say this is the first puppeteer we've had on this show, hopefully not the last.
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But you know who knew you could make a living as a puppeteer if your name wasn't Jim Henson, of all things.
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But look, he's going to be a fascinating interview.
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We've had the opportunity to just kind of talk with him a little bit in passing before doing this.
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And you know, he's got the guy who's got the gift of gab.
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We know that for sure and, like I said, he's a Fordham guy.
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I was he's going to be a great interview.
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Yeah, this is a field that I've touched on basically, and let me just say touched on because, compared to Bill Lobley, bill Lobley is acting voiceover, et cetera, on steroids.
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Basically, this guy has done it all, and this is not an easy field to break into and to be consistently getting work.
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So I'm fascinated to see how he gets his work, how it transpired.
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Was he the class clown?
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Was this training?
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I think you have to be built for this to be as successful as Bill Lobley is.
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So I think we're about to get an education on somebody who's literally built for this kind of work and I'm fascinated to see how he got there.
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Absolutely, and I should call out that he and I connected.
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Maybe a month ago.
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Six weeks ago, we spoke on the phone for an hour, and then an hour and five minutes and then an hour and ten minutes.
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This guy is a storyteller, he's a character and he is literally, as Larry Shea said, built for this universe.
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This is going to be a great conversation.
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Here is Bill Loeble.
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Now joining no Wrong Choices is the voice actor, comedian, puppeteer, certified gourmet chef and mixologist, bill Loeble.
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Bill, thank you so much for joining us.
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I don't know if I should answer.
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I'm drunk.
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You know, I've been really working hard on the mixology.
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No, no, I am thrilled.
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Thrilled to be here.
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And yeah, by the way, all those are true, and to hear them all in the litany like that is a little bit frightening.
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You are the first puppeteer we've had on this program.
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I can tell you this Hopefully not the last, hopefully not the last.
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All right, so I know that you're a Fordham guy.
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Yes, looking over your body, I too am wearing the hat today.
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So, as a fellow Fordham alum, first of all, welcome again.
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I know we already said hello.
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I'm going to say it again as a Fordham alum.
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Hail man of Fordham Hill.
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You're darn right, bill.
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What have you?
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So?
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What are you doing these days?
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Like what is your?
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I know you've done a ton of cartoon work, some video game work as well.
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What are you doing these days?
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These days it is animation work, video game work.
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You know, of course, my own.
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We'll get into extracurricular stuff later, as much as I'm allowed to speak to it by the police.
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But the um, uh, the thing about the specific work I'm doing is, and when you get on a, a podcast or an interview with someone, quote in the field, they know there's thing called ndas which the whole world knows about this week, but, um, you, you can't talk about some things and it is very strange sometimes.
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But I do know that I am working on a series right now for Adult Swim and there's no NDA with that, because we've been through it and they're in production and that's really great.
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So that is an adult cartoon and that's very, very funny, called OMG, yes, oh, my God, yes, and I did something that's for Netflix.
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That's more of a kind of like a steampunk Western that I can't talk about.
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Ok, we're doing a second season of Arcane, which is a big show that just won an Emmy last year or two years ago when it was had the first season.
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There they're making the public wait and then just regular voiceover stuff on the voice of a talking heart valve for Edwards Life Sciences, which should be on all over the Internet at some point.
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So it's pretty crazy.
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Someone asked me recently we're having a guy's weekend, a bunch of Fordham guys, and everyone was saying, ok guys, you know, it's like we're asking all the girl questions.
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You know, everybody has to say what their favorite part of their job is and we're like, oh, this is a stupid game.
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But then you know, you learn a lot from your college friends, many of them of whom were in film, and it got to me and I I really didn't know what to say.
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I really love what I do, thank God, and I said I think one of the most interesting parts for me is when I wake up in the morning.
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I don't know who I'm going to be that day, you know Wow.
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So that is pretty cool.
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And it's.
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If I look at it that way, then you can't wait to get out of bed.
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I mean, yesterday I was.
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I was a mob chef for something I read for like a guy who was who's a chef, but he's got mob ties.
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So it's like can you?
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what does that sound like?
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Can you give us a quick soundbite?
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You always give them choices and we're just kind of a guy that talks like this Don't you know what a moose boosh is?
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What's wrong with you, you know.
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And then he stuffs them full of you know, creme fraiche or something I don't know.
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So you know.
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And then I gave him one that was more erudite, like like, you know, like a more sophisticated chef would be, I'm going to kill you, you know.
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And then he's got moose and Rocco in the you know, in the walk-in freezer, which is convenient if you're going to put a body in there.
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So, yeah, so you just never know.
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So in that respect, it's pretty exciting.
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So, yeah, that's what I'm working on now and, by the way, that could change tomorrow.
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Like, here's a new thing that I had read for weeks or months ago or even days ago, and it's like, oh, I'm doing that.
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I also do ADR, which is like looping and additional dialogue, replacement for for movies, and you know you could be anywhere for that.
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We're doing that.
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Some of that is still remote from the pandemic and but thank God, we're back in the studios now in the city with, you know, eight or 10 other actors doing all the crazy background stuff you hear that you don't think is really important, but we sure think it is.
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So let's bring it, bring it back to the beginning.
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I mean, I just have this vision in my mind that when you were a child, you were class clown.
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You know you had to be right Like how did this start?
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Well, I don't know.
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The story that I like to say is when I came out of the womb and the doctor slapped me in the behind, I did a soliloquy, you know so.
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But you know the for.
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You know, for those playing along at home, that's like from birth.
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There's never a time when I didn't know I wanted to do that, and as I got into school, or even like with friends, it just became aware that that's what I like to do.
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So that's kind of how it started.
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And then, you know, in any elementary school other than goofing around with your friends, there's always a play.
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Now it probably will surprise you that I wasn't the guy that's dipping the girls pigtails into the inkwell and turning my my eyelids inside out.
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In science classes, the substitute Nothing like that.
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In fact, I was quite well behaved.
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I find that hard to believe.
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Believe me, my upbringing was fairly strict and the idea that I would goof up in school it's like that ain't why I'm there.
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So you know, as we go down the road you'll see that.
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You know that came into play.
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But yeah, I was pretty well behaved.
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I can say it safely now because all the transcripts are like in concrete and that I was a really good student.
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So when you talk about like this whole thing and you talk about plays in school, et cetera, et cetera, were you the lead in the high school plays?
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And yes, yeah, there's basically people who you know from the word go.
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They're the lead every year.
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You know they, they, they did Finian's rainbow and they did Oklahoma and it's like he was curly and he was 14 years old.
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It's like that wasn't me because, strangely, in terms of blossoming late, I was a way late bloomer when I was a freshman in high school, I was four, 11, and my voice hadn't changed.
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So good luck being curly in Oklahoma.
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When you sound like this, you know what I mean.
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One of my first big plays was I mean, at first I started on special effects in Count Dracula and I made a bloody steak Not the kind I cook, I mean an actual steak for Dracula that he met his demise through that steak, a steak dinner.
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Dracula that he met his demise through that stake, a stake dinner.
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So but then I got a job.
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See, I got a role in Annie Get your Gun as her little brother, little Jake.
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So I was playing a kid because I was short.
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And then I get, I got older, my voice didn't change and they gave me like a smaller part.
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I was an English guy and you know 10 little Indians and Agatha Christie play.
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But then then my voice changed.
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I'm like, oh, this is great, but then I'm still competing against the older kids.
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So, finally, as we got through, you know, those long four years of personal growth for me and I mean like hormonal growth- yeah.
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And I was.
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I wound up being the lead in.
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A Funny Thing Happened Away to the Forum, which remains one of my favorite shows, because the script is just banging.
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It's like Larry Joe Barton, you know.
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It's like it's like he wrote mash, you know, so, um, yeah, so, uh, so that short answer.
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Yeah, uh, all the plays, everything I could, the talent shows, you know, the dance review, even though I couldn't dance.
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Uh, you know, you get hungry for it and that's all you want to do so was that the next step then for you?
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then, obviously, you did what you see, did uh some small theater.
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Uh, you did, annie, get your gun, what actually?
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You're right, uh.
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So a funny thing happened on the way.
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The forum is one of my favorites too zero mustel, unbelievable in the oh in the show itself, just unbelievable when you uh.
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When you were then going, I guess, finish your your elementary and your high school years, you said okay, I'm going to go to another big acting school.
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You're a Fordham guy and I went to Fordham too.
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I have not known Fordham to be a big acting school, although big actors have come from Fordham.
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Yes, there's going to be a U-turn here because, well, first of all, yes, denzel Washington was the year.
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Yes, absolutely, uh, I guess ahead of us or behind, I think ahead of us, and man, this picture is all over the place.
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Yeah he's pretty good hello, and he's doing, he's doing white rolls and you know he's doing.
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He's playing julie andrews on the sound.
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I basically do anything you know, so you do then that he was going to be a star well they did, because at that point he got I think his first job was a comedy, I think it was called, I want to say Ink Spot or something like that, where he was like a fish out of water black guy in a white family or something like that, and that was one of his first big roles going, approaching nowhere near what he went through with glory and and flight and all these great movies that you know.
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You know what I mean.
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Um and uh, you know, king Kong has nothing on me.
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It's like way before that he was, he was just trying to get us, uh, you know, a part in a Joan Rivers movie, but, um, but the thing about my journey was that is absolutely mentally, emotionally, you know, psychologically, that's where I was headed.
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And then it was time to come and sit with my, my dad and mom and they're going to say so, you know you're, you're 16 years old, and they say it's not your college fairs coming up, let's talk about what you want to do with your life.
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And I was like, well, and he goes and I don't want to hear about this acting shit.
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OK, that was the next question.
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How supportive were they Right?
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Well, the answer is they learned.
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I guess they grew along with me and as a 16-year-old, you know, with imposing parents who have wanted only the best for you my father very much, a nine-to-five guy, you know, get a job, you know, you go to college, blah, blah, blah, um.
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So that that to me was not devastating, because what I began to learn about myself is like do you think you're going to stop me, you know, I dare say that to him.
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He was gigantic.
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So I had to figure out another plan.
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This is where Fordham comes into play.
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Um, uh, I decided that, uh, I would do an end around because I'm a very smart young man, and I would say to him listen, what I want to do really is going into film and television production and I'm thinking he'll buy that.
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Yeah, he's got a paycheck.
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He won't see what my real plan is.
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And as I began to tell it, tell it to him.
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He totally bought it.
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I know I'm setting it up.
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Like, oh, how stupid I was.
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He was like that's great.
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And then I started looking at schools and, you know, I wound up looking at Fordham.
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I was in Westchester County, new York, it was only 40 minutes away.
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I was not going to board there, I was going to commute and work at Shopwell, you know, and, strangely, the Rose Hill Shopping Center in Thornwood, new York.
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And after, you know, a semester at school, I basically had to say listen, I will, I will work weekends, please, let me.
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It was before the semester started.
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I said I really want to live there and they allowed it.
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But after the first semester I said I have to be here full time, I'll work my ass off summers and they let me.
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And that is a life changer.
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When you're no longer the guy that leaves on weekends, it's like the street.
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You left college on the weekends.
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Do you know what I mean?
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It's like that's insane.
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Yes, I do know what you mean.
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For three years.
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I do know what you mean.
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Talk about an eye opener for me.
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I was going Monday to Friday.
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This is what college is all about.
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And listen, let me make no mistake that the Fordham uh, you know student body knows how to party all week long.
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But Fridays I would leave and then work in the supermarket and then come home Sunday night or back to school, say home Sunday night or Monday morning, and I will have missed all of the great stories, and after a while it's like that's not going to happen anymore.
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Is this where you're developing those chops, though, those acting chops, those you know?
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You know they say you always have to go through repetitions and really kind of get your act together?
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Is it the Fordham years that you're kind of hammering out your process and figuring out your instrument and all of that stuff?
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It's a great question.
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But I found that I was like you know not to be, you know to inflate myself, but I think even a natural athlete at some point, you know, is playing great sports.
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And someone says do you realize that you can ABCD?
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And you know, do the 440 in three seconds?
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You know, no, it's like, well, let me show you some things.
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You know to answer the question.
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Not at Fordham, it was Everything we did as kids, like we watch Bugs, bunny, and then I would imitate all the cartoons.
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Now I'd have to ask my old chums from, you know, from Milton drive and Thornwood was I the better one?
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You know, it wasn't competitive at that point.
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You're just doing all the, all the bugs, bunny, voices, um, and then, anytime there's a chance, then the high school plays and the, the, the theater program in my high school was excellent.
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I've seen many college with my kids in school.
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You know college productions and it's like man, we had good shows.
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But when I got to Fordham I was, don't forget faking the film and television thing.
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But you know, now, now it became now we're getting into the class clown area where we just laughed our asses off all the time, and then eventually I started taking the classes at Lincoln Center, not Rose Hill in the Bronx, where we saw the Denzel Washington pictures.
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And I got to get the guys who, like Dylan McDermott, was one of the guys that was in, that was in class with me.
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Everybody just loved him and I was like the guy coming from, you know, up down from the Bronx.
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So here I am going to school and then realizing saying OK, screw it, what are you going to do, kick me out.
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Dad, mom, I am going to take theater classes at Fordham and they were fine with it.
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I can't say I was 100 percent honest because they didn't always check, you know.
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But someone asked me after that.
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They said wow, so for like two or three years you were studying film and TV when you could have been.
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Three years you were studying film and TV when you could have been.
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If I had, you know, faced the monster head on.
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Uh, you could have been taking acting classes and living at Lincoln center and I would have been like and give up my Rose Hill friends and and that whole lifestyle.
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But the main point is I wouldn't trade my uh studies in film and television production for anything.
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I can be on a set right now and I know what everybody's doing and now, with all this content creation and stuff at home and editing and shooting and whatever we're doing.
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I play with a band and I'll do band videos for our stuff, but it's film stuff, it's film production, which people are playing catch-up with that right now, trying to be like oh my God, how do I create content?
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I thought it was an obstacle and it wound up being like it's been a benefit.
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So during your time at Fordham and obviously you do a lot of voiceover work now did you see yourself coming out saying I want to be an actor or I want to be a voice actor, and back then you know, 70s, 80s was there was there a space for that over at Fordham, the idea of voice acting?
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Oh, absolutely not.
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I never heard of anything in terms of that.
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Occasionally you'd see a show and you know, you're watching Chicago, and you hear, ladies and gentlemen, you know, and you hear, like the actor who's doing the voice, but no, and there were no classes for that that I knew of, and it also didn't seem like a big thing.
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I think one of the reasons is is that the New York experience at that point, animation was generally in LA.
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So, in fact, even after I started working with my agent, they said, yeah, Bill, you know animations, you have to be in Los Angeles or be bi-coastal local.
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And I'm like and look how that's changed.
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But no, when I did it, I wanted to get into acting.
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I don't know what, specifically, what area you know.
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It would be TV or film or stage, it didn't matter.
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You know comedy.
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I did some stand up.
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I really wasn't sure what.
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But at that point I was like I was like a newborn in terms of my you know my freedom point.