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Hello and welcome to the Career Journey Podcast no Wrong Choices, where we speak with some of the world's most interesting and accomplished people to shine a light on the many different ways we can achieve success.
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I'm Larry Samuels, soon to be joined by Tushar Saxena and Larry Shag.
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This episode features the legendary and very unique sports personality, scott Farrell Tushar.
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As somebody who has known Farrell for decades, you are undoubtedly the right person to set up this conversation for us.
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Thank you, sam.
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Full disclosure.
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As Sam just said, I've probably known Pharrell for 30 years.
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That goes back to my time at WFN.
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That's actually where I met him and we have stayed friends ever since.
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To be quite honest with you, look this conversation.
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And we're not going to quite honest with you, um, look this conversation.
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And we're not gonna we're not gonna bs anybody.
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We already had this conversation with pharrell.
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This is not the first time we're hearing it.
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So, um, pharrell is one of the most unique people in sports, sports talk radio.
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For one, uh, he to me he's the closest thing that I've ever I'll say I'll ever done, I'll ever have the opportunity to be a rock star.
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He's about as close as you get to a rock star in any kind of industry out there.
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He is both the most unique person who has ever been on sports talk radio.
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He has created a genre of sports talk radio which I will call rock and roll sports.
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No one has done it since him and he is the only one who has ever done this to any degree.
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He is both unbelievably humble about his talent.
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You'll hear him talk a lot about how I don't mean anything.
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He's unbelievably humble about himself as a person but really at times I would say egotistical about his talent, super confident about his talent, and it's warranted because he has created a career with his voice.
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I mean, everyone knows the voice that he says sounds a lot like gravel, that it shouldn't be, he should not be as successful as he is.
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But he's not only is he successful, he's overly successful and that's what's so surprising and so uh, so surprising and so wonderful about Scott Farrell.
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He's a one of the most down to earth people you'll ever meet and at the same time, if you put a microphone in front of that guy and put them on camera, he's a million miles an hour.
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Everything you just said there's a thousand percent true, and then some, and on steroids and times a billion.
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Um, scotty Farrell's a lot man.
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I remember the first time I heard his voice I was traveling from college back home or home to college.
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It was a long trip and it was the middle of the night and scrolling up and down the dial looking for something that's going to hold my interest.
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For a little while this had to be like 1996, 97, something like that, long time ago on a planet far, far away.
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But I heard this voice man and I'll never forget the voice.
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It's the voice that's just so distinctive and he was doing things that nobody did.
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He had the rock and roll, the heavy metal music underneath.
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He was talking about pouring people beers.
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He was talking about gambling, which nobody was talking about back then, it was so taboo.
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And then fast forward to Sirius Satellite Radio and Pharrell comes on board the Howard 101.
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And it was like meeting a rock star.
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Because I was intimidated T because I had listened to this guy on the radio for years.
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And when I tell you the first time I met him, how gracious he was and that he just broke down all those boundaries and just a gentleman to the end, like seriously, he really opened his heart to me and to us and we really appreciate it.
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This interview is fascinating over the top, way over the top.
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But if you know Scotty Farrell, I mean that's what he is.
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He's a million miles per hour and I wonder why he had a heart issue after you hear this interview.
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So here we go, scotty Farrell, thank you for your friendship and this is going to be a fun listen kids.
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And that's exactly what we're in for.
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The one comment that I'll pile on with is you know, in the short time that he and I crossed over, he did learn my name, meaning he made an effort to get to know the people around him.
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Even though he is all of those things and it is not for the squeamish, if you are easily offended you might want to spend some time doing something else.
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But this is an incredible conversation that is absolutely in your face, uses colorful and some people might say profane language and expresses views of our guest, not necessarily of this program, so be prepared With that.
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Here is Scott Farrell.
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Now joining no Wrong Choices is the legendary and very unique sports personality Scott Farrell.
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Farrell has been in the business and heard nationally for decades, highlighted by his time with Sirius XM, cbs Radio and WFAN I can say it, WFAN.
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In New York.
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He currently hosts the podcast Pharrell Coast to Coast and In Game Live on SportsGrid.
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Pharrell, thank you so much for joining us.
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Guys, it's great to be on, and I was just thinking about when you said that that I started, I think, in in 83, doing Indiana University basketball and soccer.
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So I did play by play for Jerry Yagley's soccer Hoosiers and when I was there they won three national championships.
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They won three national championships and then when I wasn't doing that, I was scared to death of him and I was fascinated by him.
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I wanted to go to school there to be around him.
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The only reason that I went to Indiana University on the face of the earth was to be around Bobby Knight.
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I was obsessed with his greatness.
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I'm a basketball fanatic and I remember, you know, 76 when they went undefeated and then I saw 81.
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the night Reagan got shot.
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They beat Michigan to win their second and then I was there in my fifth year.
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I stayed five years for drugs and alcohol and women and to get revenge on losing to Cleveland State in the 86 NCAA tournament.
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I stayed one more year because I knew.
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I knew Alford and Bob Knight were going to do better than they did that day and I stayed.
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And the last thing I remember was I was on.
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I was on Bourbon Street eating mushrooms after Keith Smart hit the shot to beat Syracuse Sure.
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Remember that yeah.
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So I started my career in 1983.
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And so I think I'm literally four decades later, 41 years.
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They've all fired me and they still haven't fucking got rid of me.
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So I've been fired 20 times but I've somehow stood the test of time and I think it's because, frankly, I don't matter at all.
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But I thought I never believed that really that I did.
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I just knew that I was cool and that my show was cool and it evolved through the years and stayed cool and I saw like it transcended time, time.
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I saw the kid turn into the man, turn into the dad, turn into the grandpa and he never stopped liking the show.
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And then he turned it on to his kids and they became dads and they went to college and they ended up married and they turned it on to their kids.
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It was the weirdest thing to see through the years.
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So people say you say, oh, I'm some kind of legend, I'm nothing.
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But I do know that the show, no matter what form it was in, whether it was pussy radio for cbs, which is what it was it was pussy radio.
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It was rules and shit and fucking bosses in my asshole.
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Or if it was working for Howard Stern, which was Shangri-La, which was cool and uncensored and no rules, and I could burn fetuses on the air porn stars on my show.
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That was fun.
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Everything else was kind of soft, but I always was able to make the show like cool, even though I had suits.
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Ruin it at every turn.
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They took away my music, they took away my beers, they took away my hookers, they took away my blow, they took away my bomb they took away.
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All they did was ruin it everywhere I went, except for Howard.
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And then I went back to CBS and they and like the weirdest thing happened and Tushar knows this is true Like true.
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So Chernoff, when he was my boss back in the day, back in the 90s, he screamed and yelled at me every day of his life.
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I mean screamed and yelled at me like you have no idea.
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You have no idea how much this guy hated me and I used to sit in my pool on a raft, naked, with a doobie in my mouth and the phone on the side of the pool listening to him screaming me and I would just sit there and just blow giant hits into the air and then, one day you told me you're either here in seven days or you're fired.
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And I said, listen, I'm doing Letterman on the 31st.
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I think I can make that work.
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I go, I'll drive from California to New York.
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So you're saying I got to live there, right, I'm doing Letterman the week before, so then can you put me up at least for a couple of weeks in a hotel so I can, you know, find a place to live, because I'm going to be really busy.
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And then the weird thing was that you know 38 years later, whatever, it was, 35 years later I think.
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I've been at sports for like five years.
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When he retired, he said to me I have never in my life met anyone that changed from an asshole to someone that I love more than you.
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Wow, and I went holy fucking shit.
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And then I was friends with Chernoff, I was friends with Spitz and I was even friends with that pussy Russo, because he and Mad Dog and Fatso whatever the fuck his name was Mike Fatso.
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Those guys hated my guts like no one in the history of radio hated anyone.
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You thought imus and stern hated each other.
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Um francesa said he would quit working at the fan if they kept airing me and I was number one in every book for five years so he could work on my shaft.
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And all I know is at the end now, today.
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I'm friends with Chris, I'm friends with Mark, I'm friends with Eric and I still do shows for Eric at the Super Bowl every year, and you know Steve Cohen when he was still there.
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So it's weird that the show I know this is very long winded and I'm painful, but the show transcended time and I was able to salvage relationships that I had burned at the cross Forest Bay, drugs and alcohol and hookers and porn stars and being a shock, jock.
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And then I just became a dad and a fairly reasonable guy and then my heart exploded and I died and I somehow came back from the dead like Jesus, and I'm still here doing your fucking show today.
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Isn't that great?
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This is great.
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This is like Crib Notes version of.
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Pharrell.
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Have a good day everybody.
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That's the show.
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All right.
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So, if you haven't figured it out, the voice you're listening to is simply one of the one of the most legendary people I've ever known.
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He is an absolute.
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I mean by far and away the most unique person I've ever known, and I'm glad to call my friend Scott.
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Hey, me too.
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You mentioned just a moment ago.
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So why don't you tell everybody what you're doing today and how you're feeling, more importantly, how you're feeling Well?
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so I do uh sports grid tv, which is gambling tv, which is, uh, I think, uh a good fit for me.
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It's been a good fit for me.
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We'll see where it goes.
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Uh, I don't know, like anything else, how things go with with uh the man.
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You know I've always worked for suits and and bosses and owners and companies, big companies, and I worked for Mel Karmazin, and you know I've worked for the biggest people in radio and TV history and I have had my fair share of success and I've had a lot of failure and I'm not afraid to be fired, I'm not afraid to lose gigs.
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It's happened to me a number of times.
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Any which way you slice it, buyouts flips, format changes, ownership changes People just hating you.
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Corporate takeovers, what else?
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People just hating.
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You People hating me.
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I've gotten it every which way but loose.
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I got fired in bed.
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Opie and Anthony had sex in the church at St Patrick's Cathedral.
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When the guy did his wife on the Day of Atonement at St Patrick's in front of 200 parishioners, they called me up.
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I was in bed sleeping with 34C and they said you're fired.
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I said what did I do?
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They said you're friends with him.
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34.
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C and they said you're fired.
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I said what did I do?
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They said you're friends with them.
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Wow.
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And I said well, what the fuck does that have to do with anything?
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They go go ahead and sue us.
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See how that goes for you.
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You against CBS.
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We'll see you soon in court.
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Click and I got nothing.
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They owed me all kinds of money, so I've gotten it every which way but loose.
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But when I did a Pharrell on a bench in LA all those years ago in the nineties for Mel Karmazin, when I was on all the Stern channels, in other words like every station he was on with KLSX LA, I was on in New York.
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I was on everywhere.
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Everywhere he was on, I was on.
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He was on in mornings, I was on at night.
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That's how they did it.
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They syndicated Howard, they syndicated me, CBS and infinity and Westwood one.
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I did this show from Westwood One in LA and you know so I used to do gambling on it every Friday night.
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I would literally do every college football and pro football play for the weekend and I'm talking about that's a cash baby.
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I'm talking about 200, you know football games.
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I did every game.
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I mean Hamtramck Tech against Little Sisters of the Sluts.
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I did every game on the board it didn't matter who was playing.
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I had a spread, a money line, a total.
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I did all that and back then people wrote them down with pen and paper.
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People didn't have cell phones.
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People knew that Friday night you had to get ready because I was going to fire off winners.
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And then I was always in trouble Gambling drug use, weed pills, coke, booze, and they were like this guy's serving drinks and he's telling people to gamble.
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He's the devil.
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He needs to be stopped.
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The FCC sued me.
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Everyone was after me and I was like gambling they're like taboo.
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He is bad for children.
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He is a bad person.
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He is evil and unholy.
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And I was like give me the Browns plus the seven.
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I taught people how to do reverses.
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I taught people how to bet.
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I taught how to make money betting, how to, you know, play certain bets, how to bet you know, either big or how to nickel diamond.
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I taught people how to do everything.
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So fast forward 40 years, 35 years, and then this guy comes to me and says we want you to be the face of the network, gambling network, and they legalized sports betting.
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And you know, for the first time in my career I could, even when I was at CBS Sports Radio.
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You know, five years ago, eight years ago, 10 years ago go back 10 years they had a problem with me going on the air at night and talking gambling and talking betting and money which is illegal, and so I was no different than a heroin dealer to them.
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They're like stop with all the gambling talk, stop with all the music, stop with the beer, stop with the drugs, stop with the hook.
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But for the gambling it really got them mad.
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And so then one day a guy says to me we want you to talk gambling on our network.
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That's all we do, is sports betting, that's all we do.
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So I took the gig and for the first time ever I didn't have restraints, I didn't have cuffs on, I didn't have anybody giving me problems for gambling.
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The problem was that, you know, like everything else, they legalized it and I took the gig and when I started they had zero viewers and now it's in 150 million homes.
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The problem I have with it is is that everybody and their fucking brother does it.
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Now I got uh, everyone, I mean every person, even you know guys like larry, you knew me and and and too sure I.
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I knew Larry Samuels for a little while I knew you for a little while, I think in a window of a year.
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Yeah, that's about right.
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But the reality is, is that a lot of people that we know together I could name them right now suddenly are gambling experts?
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Yep exactly.
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Now.
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I know chicks.
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I had a chick come on my show one day and tell me on july 10th.
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I'll never forget it.
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I tell this story all the time to people.
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On july 10th she was.
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They made me have her come on my show like for.
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They forced people on me.
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Like you know, we want you to promote her and I'm like okay, uh.
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so they bring her on and she says to me in the break it's july 10th, remember you know what break?
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It's July 10th.
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Remember you know what?
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What happens on July 10th?
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Nothing Fucking baseball.
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That's all that happened.
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So the girl says to me Scott, it's great to meet you, I'm really excited to come on the show.
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By the way, I don't talk baseball.
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I said thanks for coming.
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She's on ESPN and she's an expert and she's a genius.
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Now she's on ESPN and she's an expert and she's a genius and every bet she makes is going to cash and everyone knows every result of every game, everywhere.
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Everyone, like in the middle of the NBA games.
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Now Kenny to Jed and Barkley hey, fanduel pops up and Barkley says Kenny says who do you like tonight in game, chuck?
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He's like what about Kawhi?
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You going to go over to 23 and a?
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No, I'm not going over 23 and a half, no way.
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Well, go to the sportsbook app right now and bet in game.
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And chuck hasn't hit a bet since before christ, but he's now betting.
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And then this chick's betting, that chick's betting.
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Every chick I met, which I love, all of them smoking hot.
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I love women.
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I got no problem with women, but every hot chick I've met that worked five minutes in gambling.
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They're all now on television and they're movie stars.
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I mean, everybody's a fucking movie star now.
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Everybody's on TV, everybody's a gambling, everybody's a bookie, everybody's a genius.
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Uh, they got like MSG.
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They got this penis on there selling.
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Fucking.
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He's eating cannolis and trying to be real funny and he hasn't got a game wrong in six years.
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And you watch any network.
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How about the guy on the Knicks games?
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Hey, folks in game right now, you can still pounce on that Knicks total.
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Get that over going right now.
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I'm like, yeah, whatever, fat.
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So everybody's a fucking genius and all I know is that I did it before all of them and then I'm doing it now and I get so sick and tired to watch everybody be so fucking right all the.
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And I go on air and say I sucked massive talk last night, took it in the ass and I lost five thousand dollars.